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Zolitnitsky	#1 01/03/2012 - 00h50 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	If this has been posted more than here... http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=3146 ...then I apologise but as far I could find that was it! So, I've additionally done some posting on the DCS Forum... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=85637 ... and it seems that you can use the TrackClip Pro... http://www.flightsimshop.se/product_info.php?products_id=181 (that's 57.59 USD, the little buggers rasied the price!) ...together with PS3 Eye... http://www.fyndborsen.se/spel/speltillbehor/sony-playstation-eye-ps3?stat=1 (42,54 USD) ...and the FreeTrack software! Which would releive people like me from unwanted electrical disasters, not being the practical type as it is! So, my simple question is what do you need for this to work (if it does)? First, the PS3 Eye is obviously for playstation originally, which I don't have, so do I need some software beside the FreeTrack for it to work on a PC (see my specs below). If so, what? I'd usually chose a PC cam but apparently, a least judging from reading this forum, that cam seems superior to other webcams due to its special light sensitivity (I may be corrected). Secondly, I presume it's not the usual plug-and-play so what ells do I need? Some mentioned "update distance values" which I supose is for the FreeTrack? And regarding USB, are there any potantionally conflicts or does FreeTrack rekognise them at once, given the correct drivers are installed? Anyway, most thankfull for any information before buying! Intel Core i5 @2.67, WinXp, 4GB RAM, GTS450 Edited by Zolitnitsky on 23/03/2012 at 11h02.
Steph	#2 01/03/2012 - 13h24 Top
Class : Moderator Posts : 656 Registered on : 16/11/2007 Off line	Hi, PS3Eye and TrackClip works definitely. But some meet several problems with PS3Eye Cam: There are small differences between some models. Some removed ir-filter, others not. There are some problems with the driver, apparently solved with a fix. http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=2854 I'd usually chose a PC cam but apparently, a least judging from reading this forum, that cam seems superior to other webcams due to its special light sensitivity (I may be corrected). PS3Eye has 120FPS native, of which 100FPS are used in Freetrack 2.2. Normal webcams got 30FPSmax. The result is a more fluid tracking. (I may be corrected, too). (42,54 USD) http://www.amazon.de/Sony-9473459-PLAYSTATION-Eye/dp/B000W3YQ1Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330604496&sr=8-1
Zolitnitsky	#3 01/03/2012 - 16h37 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	Thanks a bunch! Reading the post you referred to was quite enlightening: http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=2416 I don't know if I'm going to need everything but I downloaded the Sendspace "driver/filter" fix. Regarding the cam software (CL) I supose it's the free SDK (green) you need right? And does this mean you skip installing any default drivers that comes with the camera (if there are any relevant to a PC)? Then there is the elusive IR filter . Well, I mean, as you say, there are differences but perhaps not to two different models but rather to the different conditions you use the cam, judging from the thread. In any case it seems more sense to use a DARK room, and to avoid daylight (direct sunlight near windows)! Experimenting with light conditions seems perhaps preferdble before tampering with the filter. Secondly, I think there will be difficult to get hold of negative film, or "exposed developped photogray" film (colour/bw?) in the year of our Lord 2012 - unless, you also may use slide film (?). Or did mean something like this perhaps? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585497-USA/Kodak_6031330_35mm_Ektar_100_Color.html Other options like floppy seem to strong and then there's dark gel (?) and (pro) photografy infrared filter. Don't know the price of those yet, will look int to it. Then again, it might be I'm not going to need any. It's still good to know before you start "plunking down the cash".
Zolitnitsky	#4 01/03/2012 - 16h49 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	EDIT: Regarding the CL: Forget "green". It must be the "CL Eye Platform Driver" at the end.
Steph	#5 02/03/2012 - 10h58 Top
Class : Moderator Posts : 656 Registered on : 16/11/2007 Off line	Experimenting with light conditions seems perhaps preferable before tampering with the filter. Yes, some ir-filter, (infrared cut-off filter, to be exact), are not very strong. And some ir-leds are close to the 780nm limit. So in some case it's not necessary to remove it. (Like my Logitech QuickCam 5000). Other options like floppy seem to strong and then there's dark gel (?) and (pro) photografy infrared filter. Don't know the price of those yet, will look int to it. Photofilters usually are rather expensive cause of optic quality. I found a daylight filter, (piece of black plastic) in the front panel of an old VHS recorder. It's the ir-pass filter for the remote control. This works like a charm.
Zolitnitsky	#6 03/03/2012 - 04h41 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	So in some case it's not necessary to remove it. (Like my Logitech QuickCam 5000). Don't see how "some cases" support the fact of two models in the PS3 Eye case (which by all means would be good to know if true). But again, judging from, Sony's site http://us.playstation.com/ps3/accessories/playstation-eye-camera-ps3.html ...or wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Eye ..I find nothing to suggest that. However, obvioulsy there's debate about it... http://codelaboratories.com/forums/viewthread/314/ ..among others. And even if the Logitech would pose an alternative (don't know if you meant it that way, six years old as it is ) and I can find one I doubt it would perform well with TrackClip in other aspects. I hope you don't get me wrong in any way, I'm most greatful! I'm just trying to naviagate in this... tech-jungle! Well, the conclusion so far would be to try without filter, experimenting with light conditions, and slowly work your way towards a possible IR-removal. I'ts a good cam so I'd rather not see it destroyed in the first place anyway. As for the TrackClip I'm sure there could be difficulties with the settings but I've gotten some "distant values" which hopefully will be usefull. Otherwise I'll simply make use of the forum! front panel of an old VHS recorder. It's the ir-pass filter for the remote control. This works like a charm. ...damn, I knew I should have kept that old thing!
Steph	#7 03/03/2012 - 13h56 Top
Class : Moderator Posts : 656 Registered on : 16/11/2007 Off line	And even if the Logitech would pose an alternative (don't know if you meant it that way, six years old as it is ) and I can find one I doubt it would perform well with TrackClip in other aspects. I hope you don't get me wrong in any way, Not at all,... What I meant was, there are some cams out there, they don't need to be modified. By chance mine was one of them. Don't buy it now, it's outdated. But, the performance of tracking do not depends on use of a TrackClip or a home made model. Even a TrackClip is nothing more than three Ir-LEDs. It works the same way as any others. You just need to set up the dimensions in the model section and that's it. The performance depends on the cam and there you got the choice between 30FPS of an standard webcam (which is quit enough in most cases), or a PS3Eye or Wii that gives you more the double. It's like the frames in your PCgames, from 30FPS on, there is not really a great difference any more. The extra frames gives you a light gain with fluid movements. Well, the conclusion so far would be to try without filter, experimenting with light conditions, and slowly work your way towards a possible IR-removal. I'ts a good cam so I'd rather not see it destroyed in the first place anyway. Yes! Edited by Steph on 03/03/2012 at 13h57.
TheFabFour	#8 13/03/2012 - 23h36 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 18 Registered on : 18/12/2009 Off line	Zolitnitsky @ 01/03/2012 - 16h37 a dit: Thanks a bunch! Reading the post you referred to was quite enlightening: http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=2416 I don't know if I'm going to need everything but I downloaded the Sendspace "driver/filter" fix. Regarding the cam software (CL) I supose it's the free SDK (green) you need right? And does this mean you skip installing any default drivers that comes with the camera (if there are any relevant to a PC)? Then there is the elusive IR filter . Well, I mean, as you say, there are differences but perhaps not to two different models but rather to the different conditions you use the cam, judging from the thread. In any case it seems more sense to use a DARK room, and to avoid daylight (direct sunlight near windows)! Experimenting with light conditions seems perhaps preferdble before tampering with the filter. Secondly, I think there will be difficult to get hold of negative film, or "exposed developped photogray" film (colour/bw?) in the year of our Lord 2012 - unless, you also may use slide film (?). Or did mean something like this perhaps? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585497-USA/Kodak_6031330_35mm_Ektar_100_Color.html Other options like floppy seem to strong and then there's dark gel (?) and (pro) photografy infrared filter. Don't know the price of those yet, will look int to it. Then again, it might be I'm not going to need any. It's still good to know before you start "plunking down the cash". How did you get that driver/filter fix downloaded from Sendspace without getting all the spam? I can't find that fix anywhere, where it does't come with a butt load of spam and tool bars. TheFabFour TheFabFour
Zolitnitsky	#9 21/03/2012 - 17h24 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	I don't know if I'm going to need everything but I downloaded the Sendspace "driver/filter" fix. How did you get that driver/filter fix downloaded from Sendspace without getting all the spam? I can't find that fix anywhere, where it does't come with a butt load of spam and tool bars. TheFabFour If you've not found it yet try google Freetrack2.2.0.279CLeyePatch.rar for some mirrors. And XP users might not need this. Sorry for late answer! Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 05h37.
Zolitnitsky	#10 21/03/2012 - 18h44 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	Well, so now I've gotten all the stuff and wondering slightly where to start. - TrackClip Pro - PS3 Eye, unfortunately the "new" model (inward lens) (also sais "model no SLEH-00201" on back if it means anything) - some "exposed" FUJI film, colour. - FreeTrack v 2.2 - CL-NUI-Platform-1.0.0.1210 - Freetrack2.2.0.279CLeyePatch (don't think I'll need it as explained above) ... and yes the FreeTrack Handbook of course! Unfortunately it does account for everthing, like total noobs like me! The first thing I was wondering during unbox was, as TCP has a secondary USB in, if that's just to ignore or do you actually plug the PSEye in there? A stupid question perhaps but according to the manual that's where you plug the original TrackIR5 anyway. Also I was wondering if it matters in which order you install all the apps/drivers? At least some people claim to have FreeTrack not recognising the cam if CL drivers were installed subsequent to Freetrack. Specs, Intel CPU i5 750 @2.67, WinXP SP3 32bit, 4GB RAM, GeForce GTS450 1GB Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 06h01.
Zolitnitsky	#11 22/03/2012 - 08h01 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	OK, that's was obviously the wrong CL-driver. Wonderful. It's this one - CL-Eye-Driver-5.0.1.0218.exe Nice. So we try again! And obviously fails! Well, when installing the driver it sais it's been installad but it doesn't recognise the hardware. The "found new hardware" doesn't come up after the previuous driver uninstallation and when selecting update driver... http://www.flickr.com/photos/76387694@N03/7005227567/in/photostream ..it asks for a the playstation disk! And reusuming without the disk (pressing "OK") it askse for "WinUSBCoInstaller2.dll"... http://www.flickr.com/photos/76387694@N03/6859110068/in/photostream ..Yes, the camera is plugged in and rebooted several times and reconnected. Same result - "no camera found". http://www.flickr.com/photos/76387694@N03/6859110114/in/photostream Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 09h44.
Zolitnitsky	#12 22/03/2012 - 10h47 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	OOOKKKK!!! So when the stupid thing ask for a "playstation disk" - klick "OK" - and when it can't find the famous "WinUSBCoInstaller2.dll" go to your CL installation directory (yes right in the ff..ing middle of the install) and point to [YourDirectory\Code Laboratories\CL-Eye Driver\Driver] and point to - yes looki looki - the "WinUSBCoInstaller2.dll"!! And voilá !! (that's spelled correctly isn't it) - let there be picture!! Well, important here ist to uninstall and reintall here as it clears out the old drivers. I also cleaned out the registry of any thing called CL-Eye/CL-INU before reinstalling again. Finally I chosed a diffrent USB connection, however I don't think that mattered much. ... Right - so ooooon with the FreeTrack!
Zolitnitsky	#13 22/03/2012 - 12h32 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	And of course it crashes to the desktop! Much like... http://www.free-track.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1440 http://www.free-track.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1535 .. and rebooting doesn't do a thing! Tried different settings 640x480/320x240 in both FT and CL Eye Tes, lowering from 120 fps to 60 fps in FT, filter is set to SSE2 (as defsult), and as above, repluging. Don't know if I'm supose to use the "CLEyePatch", as far as I know that only applies to Win7.
Zolitnitsky	#14 22/03/2012 - 16h04 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 13 Registered on : 29/02/2012 Off line	And conclusion good people! Yes it all seems to work now, much thanks to the CLEyeFix - which you apparently do need after all! Simply replace the files in the FT install directory. It's always good to keep a backup though. However, the cam suddenly went black on me for a while for reasons unknown and I had to reinstall the whole thing again - both FT and CL-Eye Test! Though, I later found out that clicking on the CL-Eye Test shortcut (might work directly with exe-icon too) and selects "run as current user" re-enables the cam (you have to re-click "preview"). And to re-enable FT you click "camera" button (under "source") and re-tic "auto" on all options in "Camera Options" pop-up for the PS3 Eye! As for the quality, well the first impression wasn't all that staggering I'm sorry to say but I'm still discovering much of the tweaking. Using the exposed film was first a disappointment but that was before I found the "threshold". Yes, I'm a little impatient sometimes. Right now I'm pulling it to the max without any filters and it looks pretty nice, considering I'm close to a window at daylight (alright beside some venetian blinds and a small curtain but anyway...). And living in the land of the midnight sun this time of the year can also be somewhat discouraging . Raising the frame rate did some miricles though. Well, I've yet to find test it in a game - not to say getting the proper dimensions. I fear it could be a challenge as I have to have the cam below the monitor, which is not exactly ideal. I'm sure the forum will be usefull nevertheless. And so now I hope this will be helpful to someboby! Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 17h05.
Qpernikuss	#15 19/04/2012 - 12h40 Top
Class : Apprenti Posts : 4 Registered on : 17/04/2012 Off line	Hey Zolitnitsky =) How does it look now with all that stuff? Have you got it working properly? Just wondering, because I also want to join this tracking jungle and I think I also have the "bad" eye cam (but it is at least a start) and ordered a TrackClip Pro just yestoday... =) But I'm mostly worried about the cam, because I'm not sure what to do with it, when I can't remove the IR filter. And I have a big window behind me =s Any suggestions or tips? Regards Qpernikuss

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If this has been posted more than here...

http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=3146

...then I apologise but as far I could find that was it!

So, I've additionally done some posting on the DCS Forum...

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=85637

... and it seems that you can use the TrackClip Pro...

http://www.flightsimshop.se/product_info.php?products_id=181 (that's 57.59 USD, the little buggers rasied the price!)

...together with PS3 Eye...

http://www.fyndborsen.se/spel/speltillbehor/sony-playstation-eye-ps3?stat=1 (42,54 USD)

...and the FreeTrack software! Which would releive people like me from unwanted electrical disasters, not being the practical type as it is!

So, my simple question is what do you need for this to work (if it does)? First, the PS3 Eye is obviously for playstation originally, which I don't have, so do I need some software beside the FreeTrack for it to work on a PC (see my specs below). If so, what? I'd usually chose a PC cam but apparently, a least judging from reading this forum, that cam seems superior to other webcams due to its special light sensitivity (I may be corrected).

Secondly, I presume it's not the usual plug-and-play so what ells do I need? Some mentioned "update distance values" which I supose is for the FreeTrack? And regarding USB, are there any potantionally conflicts or does FreeTrack rekognise them at once, given the correct drivers are installed?

Anyway, most thankfull for any information before buying!

Intel Core i5 @2.67, WinXp, 4GB RAM, GTS450

Edited by Zolitnitsky on 23/03/2012 at 11h02.

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Hi,

PS3Eye and TrackClip works definitely. But some meet several problems with PS3Eye Cam:

There are small differences between some models.
Some removed ir-filter, others not.
There are some problems with the driver, apparently solved with a fix.

http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=2854

I'd usually chose a PC cam but apparently, a least judging from reading this forum, that cam seems superior to other webcams due to its special light sensitivity (I may be corrected).

PS3Eye has 120FPS native, of which 100FPS are used in Freetrack 2.2. Normal webcams got 30FPSmax. The result is a more fluid tracking. (I may be corrected, too).

(42,54 USD)

http://www.amazon.de/Sony-9473459-PLAYSTATION-Eye/dp/B000W3YQ1Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330604496&sr=8-1

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Thanks a bunch!

Reading the post you referred to was quite enlightening:

http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=2416

I don't know if I'm going to need everything but I downloaded the Sendspace "driver/filter" fix. Regarding the cam software (CL) I supose it's the free SDK (green) you need right? And does this mean you skip installing any default drivers that comes with the camera (if there are any relevant to a PC)?

Then there is the elusive IR filter

. Well, I mean, as you say, there are differences but perhaps not to two different models but rather to the different conditions you use the cam, judging from the thread. In any case it seems more sense to use a DARK room, and to avoid daylight

(direct sunlight near windows)! Experimenting with light conditions seems perhaps preferdble before tampering with the filter.

Secondly, I think there will be difficult to get hold of negative film, or "exposed developped photogray" film (colour/bw?) in the year of our Lord 2012 - unless, you also may use slide film (?). Or did mean something like this perhaps?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585497-USA/Kodak_6031330_35mm_Ektar_100_Color.html

Other options like floppy seem to strong and then there's dark gel (?) and (pro) photografy infrared filter. Don't know the price of those yet, will look int to it.

Then again, it might be I'm not going to need any. It's still good to know before you start "plunking down the cash".

Zolitnitsky

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EDIT:

Regarding the CL: Forget "green". It must be the "CL Eye Platform Driver" at the end.

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Experimenting with light conditions seems perhaps preferable before tampering with the filter.

Yes, some ir-filter, (infrared cut-off filter, to be exact), are not very strong.
And some ir-leds are close to the 780nm limit. So in some case it's not necessary to remove it. (Like my Logitech QuickCam 5000).

Other options like floppy seem to strong and then there's dark gel (?) and (pro) photografy infrared filter. Don't know the price of those yet, will look int to it.

Photofilters usually are rather expensive cause of optic quality. I found a daylight filter, (piece of black plastic) in the front panel of an old VHS recorder. It's the ir-pass filter for the remote control. This works like a charm.

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So in some case it's not necessary to remove it. (Like my Logitech QuickCam 5000).

Don't see how "some cases" support the fact of two models in the PS3 Eye case (which by all means would be good to know if true). But again, judging from, Sony's site

http://us.playstation.com/ps3/accessories/playstation-eye-camera-ps3.html

...or wiki..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Eye

..I find nothing to suggest that. However, obvioulsy there's debate about it...

http://codelaboratories.com/forums/viewthread/314/

..among others. And even if the Logitech would pose an alternative (don't know if you meant it that way, six years old as it is

) and I can find one I doubt it would perform well with TrackClip in other aspects. I hope you don't get me wrong in any way, I'm most greatful! I'm just trying to naviagate in this...

tech-jungle!

Well, the conclusion so far would be to try without filter, experimenting with light conditions, and slowly work your way towards a possible IR-removal. I'ts a good cam so I'd rather not see it destroyed in the first place anyway.

As for the TrackClip I'm sure there could be difficulties with the settings but I've gotten some "distant values" which

hopefully will be usefull. Otherwise I'll simply make use of the forum!

front panel of an old VHS recorder. It's the ir-pass filter for the remote control. This works like a charm.

...damn, I knew I should have kept that old thing!

Steph

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And even if the Logitech would pose an alternative (don't know if you meant it that way, six years old as it is ) and I can find one I doubt it would perform well with TrackClip in other aspects.

I hope you don't get me wrong in any way,

Not at all,...

What I meant was, there are some cams out there, they don't need to be modified. By chance mine was one of them. Don't buy it now, it's outdated.

But, the performance of tracking do not depends on use of a TrackClip or a home made model. Even a TrackClip is nothing more than three Ir-LEDs. It works the same way as any others. You just need to set up the dimensions in the model section and that's it.
The performance depends on the cam and there you got the choice between 30FPS of an standard webcam (which is quit enough in most cases), or a PS3Eye or Wii that gives you more the double.
It's like the frames in your PCgames, from 30FPS on, there is not really a great difference any more. The extra frames gives you a light gain with fluid movements.

Well, the conclusion so far would be to try without filter, experimenting with light conditions, and slowly work your way towards a possible IR-removal. I'ts a good cam so I'd rather not see it destroyed in the first place anyway.

Yes!

Edited by Steph on 03/03/2012 at 13h57.

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Zolitnitsky @ 01/03/2012 - 16h37 a dit:
Thanks a bunch!

Reading the post you referred to was quite enlightening:

http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=2416

I don't know if I'm going to need everything but I downloaded the Sendspace "driver/filter" fix. Regarding the cam software (CL) I supose it's the free SDK (green) you need right? And does this mean you skip installing any default drivers that comes with the camera (if there are any relevant to a PC)?

Then there is the elusive IR filter . Well, I mean, as you say, there are differences but perhaps not to two different models but rather to the different conditions you use the cam, judging from the thread. In any case it seems more sense to use a DARK room, and to avoid daylight (direct sunlight near windows)! Experimenting with light conditions seems perhaps preferdble before tampering with the filter.

Secondly, I think there will be difficult to get hold of negative film, or "exposed developped photogray" film (colour/bw?) in the year of our Lord 2012 - unless, you also may use slide film (?). Or did mean something like this perhaps?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585497-USA/Kodak_6031330_35mm_Ektar_100_Color.html

Other options like floppy seem to strong and then there's dark gel (?) and (pro) photografy infrared filter. Don't know the price of those yet, will look int to it.

Then again, it might be I'm not going to need any. It's still good to know before you start "plunking down the cash".

How did you get that driver/filter fix downloaded from Sendspace without getting all the spam? I can't find that fix anywhere, where it does't come with a butt load of spam and tool bars.

TheFabFour

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I don't know if I'm going to need everything but I downloaded the Sendspace "driver/filter" fix.

How did you get that driver/filter fix downloaded from Sendspace without getting all the spam? I can't find that fix anywhere, where it does't come with a butt load of spam and tool bars.

TheFabFour

If you've not found it yet try google Freetrack2.2.0.279CLeyePatch.rar for some mirrors. And XP users might not need this. Sorry for late answer!

Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 05h37.

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Well, so now I've gotten all the stuff and wondering slightly where to start.

- TrackClip Pro
- PS3 Eye, unfortunately the "new" model (inward lens)
(also sais "model no SLEH-00201" on back if it means anything)
- some "exposed" FUJI film, colour.

- FreeTrack v 2.2
- CL-NUI-Platform-1.0.0.1210
- Freetrack2.2.0.279CLeyePatch (don't think I'll need it as explained above)

... and yes the FreeTrack Handbook of course! Unfortunately it does account for everthing, like total noobs like me!

The first thing I was wondering during unbox was, as TCP has a secondary USB in, if that's just to ignore or do you actually plug the PSEye in there? A stupid question perhaps but according to the manual that's where you plug the original TrackIR5 anyway.

Also I was wondering if it matters in which order you install all the apps/drivers? At least some people claim to have FreeTrack not recognising the cam if CL drivers were installed subsequent to Freetrack.

Specs, Intel CPU i5 750 @2.67, WinXP SP3 32bit, 4GB RAM, GeForce GTS450 1GB

Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 06h01.

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OK, that's was obviously the wrong CL-driver. Wonderful.
It's this one - CL-Eye-Driver-5.0.1.0218.exe
Nice. So we try again!

And obviously fails! Well, when installing the driver it sais it's been installad but it doesn't recognise the hardware. The "found new hardware" doesn't come up after the previuous driver uninstallation and when selecting update driver...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/76387694@N03/7005227567/in/photostream

..it asks for a the playstation disk! And reusuming without the disk (pressing "OK") it askse for "WinUSBCoInstaller2.dll"...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/76387694@N03/6859110068/in/photostream

..Yes, the camera is plugged in and rebooted several times and reconnected. Same result - "no camera found".

http://www.flickr.com/photos/76387694@N03/6859110114/in/photostream

Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 09h44.

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#12 22/03/2012 - 10h47

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OOOKKKK!!!

So when the stupid thing ask for a "playstation disk" - klick "OK" - and when it can't find the famous "WinUSBCoInstaller2.dll" go to your CL installation directory (yes right in the ff..ing middle of the install) and point to [YourDirectory\Code Laboratories\CL-Eye Driver\Driver] and point to - yes looki looki - the "WinUSBCoInstaller2.dll"!!

And voilá !! (that's spelled correctly isn't it) - let there be picture!!

Well, important here ist to uninstall and reintall here as it clears out the old drivers. I also cleaned out the registry of any thing called CL-Eye/CL-INU before reinstalling again. Finally I chosed a diffrent USB connection, however I don't think that mattered much.

... Right - so ooooon with the FreeTrack!

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#13 22/03/2012 - 12h32

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And of course it crashes to the desktop! Much like...

http://www.free-track.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1440
http://www.free-track.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1535

.. and rebooting doesn't do a thing! Tried different settings 640x480/320x240 in both FT and CL Eye Tes, lowering from 120 fps to 60 fps in FT, filter is set to SSE2 (as defsult), and as above, repluging.

Don't know if I'm supose to use the "CLEyePatch", as far as I know that only applies to Win7.

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#14 22/03/2012 - 16h04

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And conclusion good people!

Yes it all seems to work now, much thanks to the CLEyeFix - which you apparently do need after all! Simply replace the files in the FT install directory. It's always good to keep a backup though.

However, the cam suddenly went black on me for a while for reasons unknown and I had to reinstall the whole thing again - both FT and CL-Eye Test!

Though, I later found out that clicking on the CL-Eye Test shortcut (might work directly with exe-icon too) and selects "run as current user" re-enables the cam (you have to re-click "preview"). And to re-enable FT you click "camera" button (under "source") and re-tic "auto" on all options in "Camera Options" pop-up for the PS3 Eye!

As for the quality, well the first impression wasn't all that staggering I'm sorry to say but I'm still discovering much of the tweaking. Using the exposed film was first a disappointment but that was before I found the "threshold". Yes, I'm a little impatient sometimes. Right now I'm pulling it to the max without any filters and it looks pretty nice, considering I'm close to a window at daylight (alright beside some venetian blinds and a small curtain but anyway...). And living in the land of the midnight sun this time of the year can also be somewhat discouraging

. Raising the frame rate did some miricles though.

Well, I've yet to find test it in a game - not to say getting the proper dimensions. I fear it could be a challenge as I have to have the cam below the monitor, which is not exactly ideal. I'm sure the forum will be usefull nevertheless.

And so now I hope this will be helpful to someboby!

Edited by Zolitnitsky on 22/03/2012 at 17h05.

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Hey Zolitnitsky =)

How does it look now with all that stuff? Have you got it working properly?
Just wondering, because I also want to join this tracking jungle and I think I also have the "bad" eye cam (but it is at least a start) and ordered a TrackClip Pro just yestoday... =)

But I'm mostly worried about the cam, because I'm not sure what to do with it, when I can't remove the IR filter. And I have a big window behind me =s

Any suggestions or tips?

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Qpernikuss

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